The Church of Satan, and the paradox of individualist religion

I recently wrote an article for the Daily Dot, Politics, the Dark Lord, and Hobby Lobby: An interview with the Satanic Temple, about the political activism of the Satanic Temple, and the question on so many people’s minds:

Is it all just some kind of prank?

The quick answer is “no”. The Satanic Temple actually has a very important and (I believe) profound religious message that they want to spread: just because a religion is atheistic, and contains no supernatural elements, doesn’t mean that it’s not a religion or that the beliefs are not deeply-held beliefs. It’s a point worth making. The entire interview with them is interesting, and you should go read it.

BUT…. there is another organization, the Church of Satan, that is very much opposed to the type of political activism that the Satanic Temple engages in. I reached out to Magus Peter H. Gilmore, a spokesperson for the Church of Satan, to find why.

The response that I got blew me away. I expected a simple answer: something like “they are giving Satanism a bad name!” or “they are making Satanism seem like a joke!” Instead, I was treated to a detailed and nuanced take on the relationship between Satanism, individualism, and political activism.

This interview will give you a lot to think about, especially if you are not familiar with Satanism as a modern philosophy or religion. The full interview is below the box. I have set out in bold some of the bits that struck me the most, for those of you who like to skim and scan.

INTELLECTUAL HONESTY MOMENT: My article’s headline is deliberately misleading! There isn’t really any “paradox” involved in an individualist religion. But, the snazzy title was a way to grab attention and tease one of the main points that I got out of the interview below: because Satanism holds individualism so dear, the entire concept of there being an organized “movement” (in the sense of coordinated activity) “in the name of Satanism” not only goes against the basic beliefs of the religion… it isn’t even an idea that makes sense once you understand what Satanism is.
I find this fascinating, because it is so completely different from literally all other religions… including the “brand” (or “style”? or “type”? I never know what word I should use) of Satanism practiced by the Satanic Temple.

 

GS: The Church of Satan (as an organization) has been very apolitical, and I know you have written about your distaste for PR stunts.  What about individuals who want to be political activists, who refer to Satanism as their motivation? Can Satanists be activists? Or is activism in the name of Satanism against the principles of the religion?

PHG: The Church of Satan is not like organizations claiming to serve as the voice for a collective. Uniquely, we are an association of individuals who uphold (as a basic premise) our members’ responsibility to create their own self-determined hierarchy of values regarding what they find beneficial or harmful in their lives.

Political issues are thus the province of each member, and we’ve noticed that choices beyond embracing the fundamental tenets of Satanism can be widely divergent amongst them. Thus, by design, the Church of Satan may not claim to speak or act for all of its members on political topics. It is not a collective, but instead a cabal of many with diverse pursuits, and so to understand it one must observe the doings of its members. That is difficult since many are not open about their affiliation so, like an iceberg, only a small percentage is publicly visible, as was mandated by our founder.

We have numerous members who are activists in various spheres that they find to be of personal interest and benefit. Satanism empowers Satanists to be the center of their own subjective universe, their own “gods” so to speak, so it is their personal values and desires motivating their activism or any other pursuits, not Satanism itself.

It is important to note that Satanism is not a cause, rather it is a set of principles that serve as a tool for each Satanist to get the most out of life. So “activism in the name of Satanism” is meaningless, since there is nothing that can stop one from employing the principles of Satanism as a personal tool for survival and prosperity. The fundamental concepts of Satanism support the individual Satanist’s desire to be politically active towards goals that enhance his or her values. […material cut for brevity…]

While mentioning Satanism outspokenly may draw much attention, we’ve yet to see any actual results achieved beyond flash-in-the-pan publicity and misrepresentation of the philosophy and practices of Satanism when those outside the Church of Satan have taken that approach. Many of our activist members support secularist/atheist organizations whose efforts at litigation against existing legislation are consistent with all of their stated principles/philosophy and thus more likely to win judicial decisions that can curb theists from forcing their beliefs on those who want no part of them. Victory has been achieved via this method. […material cut for brevity…]

GS:  Do the core beliefs and principles of the Church of Satan have any implications for “separation of church and state”, or legal constructs such as the “Religious Freedom and Restoration Act”?

PHG: Our philosophy supports the strict separation of Church and State rather than a competing morass of religious pluralism. Satanism has at times been defined as an “anti-religion” and so in this society it is consistent to support secularism in government. With the plethora of religions in existence it is far wiser to advocate the keeping of them as private among their adherents, not as active elements competing to foster their own interests in the realm of governing a varied citizenry.

Secularism over pluralism makes sense, particularly when one is a member of a minority point of view. Thus a republic which attempts equity for all being governed rather than a democracy that can be swayed by majoritarian interests is a sensible environment in which many, including Satanists, can flourish and enjoy their own preferred paths that don’t require intentionally impinging on others. It should be obvious that a theocracy would not be a happy place for any who were not part of the dominant religion.

The “Religious Freedom and Restoration Act” seems to me to be a nebulous bit of legislation whose implications were apparently not fully considered prior to enactment since the original intent (to my knowledge) was basically to allow Native Americans access to areas they considered to be “sacred” owned by the United States Government. The concept that the “Government shall not substantially burden a person’s exercise of religion” leaves as far too vague the interpretation of what that “burden” and the limits of an “exercise of religion” might be. The Hobby Lobby approach and that of the religious leaders who wrote on July 1, 2014 to President Obama—suggesting that being forced to treat people they hire with equality is a substantial burden—essentially both seek to allow discrimination against those who do not share their beliefs who are employees of primarily non-religious business endeavors. I’ve addressed that absurd issue in my article, “Mask Slippage—Does Faith Entitle a Right to Discriminate?“.

So this act has left loopholes which Christians are now using as a means for forcing others to follow their beliefs as well as for punishing others who are non-believers. I suspect this interpretation goes beyond what the framers of the original legislation intended and so it is time for a re-evaluation and fine-tuning of this towards the end of equity for all involved. President Obama’s rejection of that letter’s anti-LGBT request was a fine counter-move. It can be difficult to reach consensus when one side considers “freedom” to consist of curtailing the pursuits of others that are not personally forced upon them. In a free society, which is advocated by most Satanists, we cannot guarantee that one will be free from being offended by the diverse legal indulgences of others.

GS: Can you imagine any type of political or cultural scenario where the Church of Satan would publicly support or oppose a law, politician, or movement?

PHG: Back during “The Satanic Panic” (80s-90s) there was proposed congressional legislation to make Satanism illegal. During that time Anton Szandor LaVey, the founder of the Church of Satan, had encouraged me as a spokesperson for the organization and the means for combating this proposal was to educate people about what Satanism really was, rather than the, then current, fantasy of Devil worship, child abuse and sacrifice promulgated by evangelical Christians and gullible journalists. LaVey did not have the Church of Satan issue statements rallying its members to sally forth. Instead, he felt that fulfilling the purpose of the Church of Satan—educating others as to what it represents—would serve to dissolve the false definition of Satanism fueling that proposed law. And so it did and I spent many hours accurately representing the reality of our philosophy in all forms of the media to that end.

It is my practice to continually write pieces demonstrating how Satanism can be applied towards many different aspects of life and society beyond what Dr. LaVey covered in his works, and in doing so I maintain the rational, coherent set of principles that he originated. I comment on issues that arise in which Satanism is being raised, often falsely, so situations such as the Columbine murders, The West Memphis Three trial, various slayings and other crimes deemed by journalists or local authorities to be “Satanic” have been and continue to be addressed. I also point out where theism is attempting to quash secularism in our society, and the same-sex marriage issue—one of civil rights being abrogated because of theist concepts—has received a number of essays.

Since the primary purpose of the Church of Satan is education, I and the rest of our articulate spokespersons address questions via our on line presence as well as through interviews in all media, including numerous podcasts. Our regular lectures at colleges and other educational institutions have been successful for years, and we’ve also served the needs of our members through baptisms, weddings and funerals as well as private events. These are not intended for public consumption beyond specific audiences and so fulfill their intended purposes without outside knowledge or interference.

If a law, politician, or movement arose that was directly and specifically hostile to the members of the Church of Satan, I would determine, considering the factors involved, what might be the most advantageous course of action towards resisting such efforts.

GS: Finally, I have a question about terminology. When I spoke with Lucien Greaves of The Satanic Temple, he used the term “Atheistic Satanism”. Do you describe the religion of the Church of Satan using that term?

PHG: We define our approach simply as “Satanism” since no coherent philosophy named such existed in an organized and widely disseminated manner before Anton LaVey’s founding of the Church of Satan.

Satanism had been an epithet hurled as a means to denigrate people throughout history prior to LaVey. While Maria de Naglowska and and Stanislaw Przybyszewski embraced Satan as a positive symbol in their lives (much to the consternation of their associates) they did not spawn global movements with fully codified philosophies. LaVey defined Satanism as based on atheism and I’ve pointed out the conceptual journey that leads one from basic non-belief in deities to what I call I-theism in my essay “What, The Devil?”.

We do not accept others using the term Satanism and instead challenge them to clearly define what they are doing in contradistinction to the Church of Satan through descriptive nomenclature. The theistic organization The Temple of Set, created by departing members of the Church of Satan headed by Michael Aquino, was self-termed Setianism and it is the only left-hand path organization with an actual belief in supernatural deity figures with a philosophy that is clearly delineated in a body of literature. We consider those who believe in any supernatural demonic entities to be devil worshippers or demonolators, not Satanists.

Over the past nearly fifty years, the Church of Satan has produced a philosophical perspective that serves many around the globe as a means for enhancing their lives using a rational and coherent set of principles. Whatever else may arise, I think what we offer will continue to have value for a select few outside of the herd of society who are intelligent, creative, skeptical and—most of all—carnal and willing to take up the challenge of determining their own personal standards and living up to same.

Magus Peter H. Gilmore

Magus Peter H. Gilmore, Church of Satan



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  1. Jesper Petersen says:

    Hi Greg.

    This is an interesting interview, and as a religious studies scholar working on Satanism for more than a decade, I would love to read the whole piece (you cut for brevity a couple of places). Is that possible?

    Best,

    Jesper Petersen, NTNU, Norway.

  2. Craig says:

    The Satanic Temple is not interested in promoting the teachings of Anton LaVey, rather they are attention seekers looking to make a name for themselves while riding the coat-tails of a truly innovative man. They can have all the pink masses, or borderline pedophilia obsession with children, or erecting “Satanic Monuments” in Oklahoma that they want, but those who actually read and understand The Satanic Bible sees through this b.s. and recognizes these jokers for what they truly are: pseudo Satanists.

    Thanks for this interview. I really enjoy reading Gilmore’s works and his interviews. For anyone with misconceptions about Satanism should look up some of his writings. People would be much more informed.

    • Greg Stevens says:

      Thank you for your comment! I’m only beginning down the path of learning some of the history of Satanism, and it is fascinating.

      I still hold in abeyance my own judgment of the Satanic Temple. Of course, as I learn more I may come to agree with you over time. So far in my journey, there is part of me that wants to give them the benefit of the doubt: that they simply are using drama and irony and (metaphorical, cultural) “bomb-throwing” as a way of expressing true, deeply-held beliefs. I’ll be honest: I may not end up buying it! 😉 But I’m still thinking. I will probably write more on this topic, here on my personal blog, in the near future.

      Thanks for taking the time to stop by.

  3. Nick Cast says:

    I agree with a lot of what I read and it also gives me a better understanding of Satanism.
    I always believed I am an athiest and have always wanted to learn and read more about Satanism.
    In the past I have read the Satanic Bible but not much more at the time my girlfriend was dead set against Satanism. Now she’s gone and Im free to read and learn more. Hopefully I can learn from the writtings and interviews from this site.

  4. Whether it be the Satanic Temple or the Church of Satan, there is nothing profound about either of these two organizations. They entertain the pretension of being philosophical without actually doing any philosophy. I’m a bit unnerved by their lack of originality and failure to explore their ideas any deeper. And it is interesting they preach individuality and critical thinking, yet both organizations rest on a bedrock of dogmatic tenets that seem to demand their members take them at face value. Furthermore, why all the symbolism and theatrics? I don’t really see the point if not for anything else but fun and shock-value. It all reminds me of my rebellious teenage death metal years (during which, in fact, I brought The Satanic Bible by Anton LaVey to school just to freak out all the Bible-thumping hillbillies).

    However, I can at least agree in principle with the political tactics of the Satanic Temple (though, not a cause for me to take their religion any more seriously). The Church of Satan, on the other hand, claims not to even be a political organization, and has as its seventh “Satanic Rule of the Earth” to “Acknowledge the power of magic if you have employed it successfully to obtain your desires. If you deny the power of magic after having called upon it with success, you will lose all you have obtained.” And, um… yeah. That’s about all I have to say about that.

    • Joshua Jones says:

      As a Satanist, I wish to clarify a few things.

      …they preach individuality and critical thinking, yet both organizations rest on a bedrock of dogmatic tenets that seem to demand their members take them at face value.”

      Actually, we take nothing at face value. We have a saying, “Satanistm demands study, not worship.” We don’t all agree with one another. That would be boring. We are expected to back up anything we say with proof, not faith.

      Furthermore, why all the symbolism and theatrics?

      As Magus Gilmore put it so succinctly, “All religion is show business; we’re the only ones who admit it.” There is symbolism and theatrics in everything. We all went through the same symbolic and theatrical activity every morning at school. It means nothing, but people act like it does.

      It all reminds me of my rebellious teenage death metal years (during which, in fact, I brought The Satanic Bible by Anton LaVey to school just to freak out all the Bible-thumping hillbillies).

      Well, apparently, unlike the rest of us in that part of our lives, you failed to even open it up and read it. That is the difference; we know, you assume.

      …its seventh “Satanic Rule of the Earth” to “Acknowledge the power of magic if you have employed it successfully to obtain your desires. If you deny the power of magic after having called upon it with success, you will lose all you have obtained.” And, um… yeah. That’s about all I have to say about that.”

      An entire chunk of “The Satanic Bible” puts this in context, as well as other writings, both in print and online format.

      We expect that, like we did, that others do the most basic of research, at the very least. Strangely enough, in the age of unlimited access to information, that skill seems to have diminished.

    • Greg Stevens says:

      I think it’s possible, in the abstract anyway, to distinguish between embracing SYMBOLISM and embracing dogma. The way it appears to me is that the Church of Satan are very interested in embracing the power (in the psychological sense, not in some kind of mystical “power crystals” sense) of symbolism, and even ritual. When I was at U of M, I was in a cross-departmental doctoral program that included both the psychology and anthropology departments. In several of the anthropology courses that I took, we delved into the way symbolism is used in cultures and groups, the way that they form “external mental symbols” that are constructed as a distributed system across social groups and even across generations, and so on. One course I took even delved into the underlying physiological mechanisms that get triggered by ritual and why ritual might be so powerful for people, and what it is for evolutionarily.

      I guess that is all my long way of saying: let’s just not DISMISS symbolism as useless trappings on the exterior of a philosophy. Symbols and ritual have psychological reality, at the very least.

      You, of course, do not place value on symbolism and ritual, perhaps that is why you are an atheist and not a Satanist! But that doesn’t mean that Satanists are merely atheists with Fancy Ritual Icing on top.

      Remember one of my previous articles where I said that sometimes when someone uses a phrase (like “everything happens for a reason”), it might be useful to try to decode what they might have meant in the most GENEROUS possible way, rather than the most skeptical? This is also what I do when I read the Satan Rules and the stuff about magic. The term “magic” can be used to invoke very powerful symbolic psychological structures, if you interpret the term in a non-supernatural way.

      • Lanny Harris says:

        Greg, you’re a very astute man. I think you’d be a great addition to The Church of Satan if you were of the mind to join!



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